Do not install list?

I know you are not supposed to install to the HDD Halo 3 as it makes it way slower. Any other games people aware of?SO far it works great for GoW2, L4D, F3, CoDWaW. Do not install list?
[QUOTE=''Alucard_Prime'']I know you are not supposed to install to the HDD Halo 3 as it makes it way slower. Any other games people aware of?SO far it works great for GoW2, L4D, F3, CoDWaW. [/QUOTE]



i noticed an improvement in cod4 and mass effect. I'm going to be putting skate on my 360 in a bit as wellDo not install list?
[QUOTE=''KoRn_Eddy_88''][QUOTE=''Alucard_Prime'']I know you are not supposed to install to the HDD Halo 3 as it makes it way slower. Any other games people aware of?SO far it works great for GoW2, L4D, F3, CoDWaW. [/QUOTE] i noticed an improvement in cod4 and mass effect. I'm going to be putting skate on my 360 in a bit as well[/QUOTE] i thought installing mass effect on the hdd made it worse. it does load faster, but i notice the framerates have gotten worse, especially in the citadel. about gta 4, it's a 50:50 situation. the loading time is faster, framerates improve a bit, but there are more pop-ups than before. the game that has gained most benefit from this install feature in mc:la. after installing it, load time is a lot faster, and so far i've not seen any pop-ups at all.
I pretty much only know of games that you ''should'' install like Fable II, Fallout 3, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, The Orange Box, Rock Band 2, Simpson's the Game, Virtua Fighter 5 and especially Ninja Gaiden II where the initial load is cut by 3 times and in-game loads are pretty much eliminated.
I don't understand how installing them should make them slower??? Does someone know the reason this happens? 
[QUOTE=''Razieluk'']I don't understand how installing them should make them slower??? Does someone know the reason this happens? [/QUOTE]on the xbox 360 hdd, 4 gb of hdd space is alocated for data caching. games like halo 3 uses this function. when you load halo 3, it load cache into the 4gb space on the hdd. when you install the game on the hdd, you're actually creating a disc image of the game. the game will think it's launching from the dvd drive as it is emulated. it will still load cache into the 4gb space, which increases hdd activity, and making it slower. well, i think my theory is correct. correct me if i'm wrong. bungie should make a patch for halo 3 soon.  
How big is the Lost Odyssey install? Those 4 discs look intimidating to my hard drive space. :P
[QUOTE=''Syaz1''][QUOTE=''Razieluk'']I don't understand how installing them should make them slower??? Does someone know the reason this happens? [/QUOTE]on the xbox 360 hdd, 4 gb of hdd space is alocated for data caching. games like halo 3 uses this function. when you load halo 3, it load cache into the 4gb space on the hdd. when you install the game on the hdd, you're actually creating a disc image of the game. the game will think it's launching from the dvd drive as it is emulated. it will still load cache into the 4gb space, which increases hdd activity, and making it slower. well, i think my theory is correct. correct me if i'm wrong. bungie should make a patch for halo 3 soon.  [/QUOTE]



Actually Bungie stated they will not be releasing a patch, as it would require too much re-working of the games's code. No big deal Halo 3 was never too heavy on the load times.
Not like many people play it, but i downloaded NHL 09 to my HDD (5.7g) and it was identical to reading off the disc....if anything the loading was a slight bit longer. EA did a great job of loading from 08 to 09, so the disc read configs must work better than running off the hdd.
Ive installed Gears 2 and when I was inside the worm all the smoke effects were showing up as different size squares and the muzzle flash was a yellow square also.
[QUOTE=''Cactus_Matt'']How big is the Lost Odyssey install? Those 4 discs look intimidating to my hard drive space. :P[/QUOTE]



I believe it was around 23 gigs.
GH:WT loading times have been reduced by alot.
sounds to me like alot of work is needed for the disc to hdd transfer....i currently do not have a hdd and once i get one i dunno if i will do it.
[QUOTE=''voodooline0110'']sounds to me like alot of work is needed for the disc to hdd transfer....i currently do not have a hdd and once i get one i dunno if i will do it. [/QUOTE] Hardly, you insert the disk in the drive and there's an option to install it to the HDD. It takes around 10 minutes for the computer to transfer the game to HDD - you don't have to do anything further. Then job done. Not a lot of work at all.
[QUOTE=''Razieluk''][QUOTE=''voodooline0110'']sounds to me like alot of work is needed for the disc to hdd transfer....i currently do not have a hdd and once i get one i dunno if i will do it. [/QUOTE]

 Hardly, you insert the disk in the drive and there's an option to install it to the HDD. It takes around 10 minutes for the computer to transfer the game to HDD - you don't have to do anything further. Then job done. Not a lot of work at all. [/QUOTE]

I mean with fixing the problems :) i know its not hard to do it :)
I installed The Elder Scrolls IV:Oblivion, Fallout 3, Gears of War, Gearsof War 2, Mass Effect, and they have all improved with loading times and frame rate.
[QUOTE=''Syaz1''][QUOTE=''Razieluk'']I don't understand how installing them should make them slower??? Does someone know the reason this happens? [/QUOTE]on the xbox 360 hdd, 4 gb of hdd space is alocated for data caching. games like halo 3 uses this function. when you load halo 3, it load cache into the 4gb space on the hdd. when you install the game on the hdd, you're actually creating a disc image of the game. the game will think it's launching from the dvd drive as it is emulated. it will still load cache into the 4gb space, which increases hdd activity, and making it slower. well, i think my theory is correct. correct me if i'm wrong. bungie should make a patch for halo 3 soon.  [/QUOTE]



That sounds about right. Thing I don't understand is Halo 3 isn't the only game that uses the cache. Most other games do too so why is it ok for them to be installed but not Halo 3?
[QUOTE=''x-2tha-z''][QUOTE=''Syaz1''][QUOTE=''Razieluk'']I don't understand how installing them should make them slower??? Does someone know the reason this happens? [/QUOTE]on the xbox 360 hdd, 4 gb of hdd space is alocated for data caching. games like halo 3 uses this function. when you load halo 3, it load cache into the 4gb space on the hdd. when you install the game on the hdd, you're actually creating a disc image of the game. the game will think it's launching from the dvd drive as it is emulated. it will still load cache into the 4gb space, which increases hdd activity, and making it slower. well, i think my theory is correct. correct me if i'm wrong. bungie should make a patch for halo 3 soon.  [/QUOTE] That sounds about right. Thing I don't understand is Halo 3 isn't the only game that uses the cache. Most other games do too so why is it ok for them to be installed but not Halo 3?[/QUOTE]other games probably read more from the disc than load cache into the hdd. there are other games that have the same problem as halo 3, such as gta 4, which also load cache into the hdd. the pop-ups got worse after installation.
My Gears of War 2 game was working perfectly for 2 weeks straight. So yesterday I decided to try and install it. After the installing was finished, I pressed ''Play Game'' and now it says ''Disc Unreadable''. I think installing it messed up my game. And yes, I've tried uninstalling it and restarting the console. =(
[QUOTE=''Cactus_Matt'']How big is the Lost Odyssey install? Those 4 discs look intimidating to my hard drive space. :P[/QUOTE]Lost Odyssey is a four disc game?